
1972 marked the year Bible thumpers and porn freaks ate popcorn and
dug porn without shame. Deep Throat's (rumoured) mob ties, the
infamous Linda Lovelace and a $600 million gross would change the
world forever.
The worlds most famous porn star
Ron Jeremy talks to Fused about the skin flick that introduced him
to the world of adult entertainment.
1972 marked the year Bible thumpers and porn freaks ate popcorn
and dug porn without shame. Deep Throat's (rumoured) mob ties, the
infamous Linda Lovelace and a $600 million gross would change the
world forever.
The worlds most famous porn star Ron Jeremy talks to Fused about
the skin flick that introduced him to the world of adult
entertainment.
Where did you first see Deep
Throat?
I first saw Deep Throat as a little kid. Well, not really that
little. I was with my dad when I first turned 19 back in Queens
College. We saw it at the Mayfair movie theatre in Queens. It was
my first time seeing a porn film and it was kind of goofy. I
thought it was not a very good movie 'cause I was comparing it to
mainstream films. That's all I had seen. However, when I think
about how it compares to adult movies it was actually very, very
good. As a porn film it's definitely among the best, especially
back then as the movies were shot on film.
Did you ever jerk off to Deep
Throat?
No, in all fairness I never jerked off to Deep Throat I. I never
jerked off to any kind of porn film. But I did jerk off to
Gilligan's Island and I Dream of Jeannie. I got to tell you I did
prefer Mary Ann over Ginger.
What has been your involvement in
the Deep Throat series?
I would have been in Deep Throat 1 had I been in the business back
then, but Harry Reems was in Deep Throat I with Linda Lovelace. I
had a major role in Deep Throat II (remake), IV, V and VI
starring…oh gosh… the butt woman? I forgot her name. And I
have been used as a judge every so often when they do a search for
a new "Deep Throat Queen".
What's your opinion on the
rumoured mafia connections in early porn?
In all honestly, I won't totally deny it. There were rumours that
the producer was involved with certain families in New York.
And it's a pretty known fact that the families were involved in
porn back in the old days. But when the market went video
they pretty much got out of it. There was no point, if you
needed 100k to make a movie, you might need a loan and they'll get
back a quarter million from you, they got involved in
distribution. Gangsters, to be involved, want to have
control. So they can control film releases, so their theatre
gets it in Chicago, NY, LA…down south. When the market went
video they had no way to control it….anybody can open up a video
store and sell regular videos. Plus when you can make a film
for 5k, you don't need a loan for that. You have that in your
pocket.
I liked the Producer a lot. I'd go to their house for Italian
dinners. They were so much fun. They would make their
spaghetti with sausage meatballs. Like all Italian guys that
were gangsters, they can all cook real good. That's when you
know a guy is truly a gangster, when he can cook like a
son-of-a-gun.
What was the trick behind Linda's
technique?
Well, the producer loved the way Linda Lovelace would do the deep
throating - when it would get stuck in her. She'd do this
little pause and then took it all the way. She would put her
mouth around it, she'd take it down as far as she could go until it
hits the epiglottis…the uvula and then all of a sudden she would go
'uhh' and take it one step further. So there would be like a
pause, and he really got a kick out of it because no other woman
ever before, and actually since, has deep throated quite the way
Linda Lovelace did. She would take it and pause and then boom
shoots down. There was the little break period where you know, it's
pretty bizarre, she takes it down, it hits bottom and then half
your shmekula is still outside and then all of a sudden boom right
to the balls.
When you were involved in the Deep
Throat series did you try to find girls who could continue Linda's
technique?
Yes, in 4, 5 and 6, I had girls that could deep throat right to the
balls. I learned a lot from a woman who could take any size -
me or John Holmes right to the balls - and you wonder where in the
heck is it going. You wonder why her scalp isn't popping out in the
back. It is truly a masterpiece, she is like the sword-swallower,
so what she would do, is she would take like butter or margarine
and lubricate her gums, polysaturated margarine, so I did that in
my movie. I added to the series the girls lubricating their gums
with butter, just something to make it goofy.
How did Deep Throat affect
society?
Well, what is interesting to note about Deep Throat is that a lot
of major celebrities came to its aid. I think it was Warren Beatty
and his sister, Shirley McClain. I think Linda Redgrave might have
come to their aid and Alan Goldstein and Jack Nicholson. I know
that a lot of famous directors wrote an amicus brief to the court
case when Harry and Linda were on trial. These celebrities all gave
amicus briefs to court and they really worked hard to defend Harry
Reems and Linda Lovelace. What made this film kind of
interesting out of society's point of view anthropologically and
socially is that they were trying to indict actors for a
performance that they did in a movie. A lot of the other actors
said while we don't find porn films that exciting, we don't like
them, you know, we find them disgusting, however, don' t ever
indict an actor for a performance they do in a movie. That is very
dangerous grounds to play with. That is very unconstitutional, very
much against freedom of speech. And that you don't play games like
that. They were trying to make it like paying for sex was a crime,
like prostitution or philandering, obscenity, whatever. They
have indicted us since, ya know, in many cases we've all faced the
music.
Also, it put porn into conversation. All the celebrities said
Deep Throat made porn chic to talk about. Before then it was
like men in black socks wearing masks, don't talk, don't think,
just go to a little private peek show booth and look at it. With
Deep Throat it became a thing with theatres, you can go to theatres
that serve popcorn, try to make it classier. It was the beginning
of the more mature era of porn. Deep Throat was a very, very
important landmark of that aspect, now you can see porn, and go, oh
what the heck. Somebody might laugh at you, not everyone is going
to accept it if they're religiously oriented. It made it
chic. In fact, it made such amazing headlines all over the country
- you know when it played - it was stopped. I'll never forget the
famous headlines in Queens, New York 'Judge Cuts Throat, World
Mourns'.
During the making of Deep Throat 2
(1974) and with the FBI on their backs, Arrow was forced to make
two different film reels. Somehow in the lab the X-rated film
reels were stolen, leaving the film company to release an R rated
version. Did you see it?
Yes, it was very bad for business. Who wants to see an R rated film
like that? I actually remember seeing it in a drive-in theatre in
the Catskills Mountains and being all pissed off because you
couldn't see any sex. I would die to see a copy of that film again.
I was actually in another Deep Throat 2, which was released years
later, around 1979 or 1980. They probably should've given it a
different name, but they just acted like the other one didn't
exist. It's very bizarre.
What's your take on the Deep
Throat soundtracks?
I remember that the music in Deep Throat 1 was campy and adorable.
Porn films always had that boom-chicka-boom-chicka-boom music, but
Gerard Damiano (director of Deep Throat I) always had the desire to
go straight, so he put in music that was unlike typical porn music.
Not just bouncy stuff, but more fun-goofy-crazy music. There's the
scene where the guy orgasms in Linda's mouth. Rockets and
explosions are blasting off, and they play all this patriotic
music. Gerard Damiano edited the film to its music, so the actions
would match and the beat would match…like up and down strokes on
the old shaft…it was pretty clever.
During Deep Throat, the Producer wanted to put in real songs that
had lyrics - songs that would match what was going on in the
action. They put on real soundtracks. Now days you can
make a porn film for like $5k, some little pro-amateur where you
interview the girl and have sex with her. You know….Where you
from? Here's a cup of coffee, blow me. There's your
dollar.
The woman who scored Deep Throat 2 went on to do the music for The
Incredible Shrinking Woman, starring Lilly Tomlin. She was actually
a legitimate musician. I believe the director was hooked up with
recording artists in New York, which was one reason it was so good.
When they were editing Deep Throat 2, the entire building was full
of studios and recording artists doing their demos for various
record labels. The director was friends with a lot of them,
therefore by sheer accident, Deep Throat 2 has very professional
music. Both 1 and 2 have better soundtracks than the vast majority
of films that were made before or since.
Deep Throat parts 1 & 2 Soundtrack CD is available from
www.lightintheattic.net

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